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    I am pretty sick of the Democrats bullshit, but I’m even more sick of the Republicans bullshit.

    I hate it here.

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    My god! You mean they attached a bomb collar around her neck and said if she didn’t comply they would detonate it?

    Wait, they didn’t do anything of the sort? Well, sounds like they didn’t force her to do anything and the only thing stopping her from speaking out was her own spineless cowardice.

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    Like they were ever going to.

    If she was going to do something different to what the party wants, she’d never have been their nominee to start with.

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    Color me surprised that the Democrats have as much blame for our current situation as the Republicans. Nobody, NOBODY, wanted to return to normal; they wanted real change and the best they got was state-sponsored financing for tech companies and unequal economic policies

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    Sounds like she’s a bitch. You’re campaign already started who gives a fuck what Joe Biden wants. Imo it’s good she didn’t win because if she could be that easily controlled then it’s better she stay on the sidelines.

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    Wow, so if true this implies that in the Democratic party even the women running for president has to do what the big man says. Hope this is false.

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      It’s definitely not false, it’s the playbook all of the political giants have been running for very many years now.

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    Hillary was going to continue Obamas policies, more or less. its purely sexism why both female candidates never won, sprinkled a little racism.

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      Or, only people with certain beliefs have the backing/money to get to the top of a US political party.

      They didn’t win because their policies don’t reflect the worker base.

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        Even this seems far fetched. Why would they risk something like that in an election that had so much hanging on it.

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          They were already hanging the future of the country on an old man who struggled to stay awake through press conferences.

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          Yes. As much as the Dems insist “This is a critical juncture, and we need to unite”, they mean “You need to unite behind whatever we say you need to do”.

          See post-election: The only thing the Dems want to do is wear matching outfits, rather than vote “No”.

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          I’m convinced that the DNC isn’t worried about winning any more races than they have to do that they survive as a political entity. Just going off the push the minority leaders have been making and the stream of emails and phone calls I get, as someone registered independent.

          I see and hear nothing about actual policy change or progressivism from the names in the critical positions, and a lot about donations to “help us win next time, guys, for real this time!”

          My senators (both women, both dems), haven’t actually responded to any of my calls, emails, or letters asking for their stances or plans for change. I have got several form responses that end with a call for donations, though. 🤷

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    Oh? Pulling a “Republican”? My wife made me do it? Wasn’t my fault? Attempting to distance herself so she can make a run for office again.

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      As a liberal male from CA; she’s just not likeable. She gives off the energy of that high strung person everyone’s trying to avoid talking to at the cookout.

      Then again Donald Trump gives off that creepy conspiracy theorist pedo vibe that you’d also avoid and the right loves him.

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      Yeah, seriously. She’s an adult. She could have just said “Thanks Joe, now go away.” What could he have done? Fired her?

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    If anyone wants some good rage material, watch the Pod Save America interview with Harris staffers

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      Omg, only 15 mins in and I can’t listen this anymore. When she said “finally turn the page”, maaaaan. Did she wrote all Kamala’s speeches or smth? And again, instead of talking what was wrong, they just say that during a race their point is was to remind how bad it 3as during Trumps first presidency. Not what people are complaining about RIGHT NOW, but rather about how bad the orange man is. He is, we know. But that is not a solid and the only base to run on. There are much more serious issues in US than orange man bad which went undressed. And I am not even form US.

      They could win by running Healthcare revamp, education revamp and tax revamp. But all these things are going against their sponsors interests. Us now is a fail state. Let us hope 2028 will be an actual page turn with fresh minds in the race.

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    She was elected, not appointed. She could say and do what she wanted and theres not much Biden could have done about it.

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              She was not elected to the the presidential candidate for 2024, she was anointed by the party without an open primary.

              If you can’t have a conversation without resorting to character attacks, that says a lot about your (lack of) character.

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                By the time Biden dropped out, it was one month to the DNC which would select a candidate. There was no time to run a primary, and they were actively attempting to prevent what happened at the last brokered convention which resulted in utter chaos:

                https://youtu.be/sDwKyoSmhow

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                  We needed “utter chaos” at the convention, and didn’t get it. That convention needed to drown out the spectacle of the donvict, and draw in bored and disillusioned voters to participate.

                  It didn’t. They were trying to avoid a “Bernie Bros” scenario that couldn’t have occurred because we didn’t have months to fall in love with a particular candidate.

                  It sucked out what little life remained in the campaign, and gave us the most boring presidential race of my lifetime.

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                  Yes there was still time to run a primary.

                  Besides, Biden should have dropped from the race many months prior, or better yet not run again at all as he promised during his 2020 campaign.

                  Harris and other DNC members shouldn’t have tried to gaslight us about Biden’s health during all that time; they really took us for a bunch of idiots, which most certainly didn’t help their case.

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    She is her own person and has to live with the consequences of her choices like everybody else. It’s all in the past now and just a footnote in history.

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    Honestly this behavior is going to keep getting highlighted from Biden because he was an absolute stubborn idiot. He had polling showing him losing to Trump with over 400 electoral votes for MONTHS before dropping out. He blamed his family for staying in as long as he did, obviously it was him or what was left of him.

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      more like the megadonors were starting to steer away from biden and harris.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      History will not look kindly on Biden for fucking over his one job of stopping Trump. Didn’t arrest him, didn’t defeat him, didn’t stop most of the Jan 6 protestors, didn’t go after the enablers of his actions, didn’t really stop anything Trump did to avoid debt and jail and we ended up with him for Round 2, Even Worse This Time.

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        100% agreement. He should have arrested Agent Krasnov and his henchmen on the first day of his presidency, and detained them in isolation without bail or access to the media, until their trials were resolved. If he had done that, Krasnov and his Gang would be in prison right now, instead of the White House.

        Instead Biden appointed a weakass Republican as his AG who gave him a 2 year head start to run out the clock.

        The Dems had the perfect chance to defend our country from the MAGA scourge, but they totally abdicated their responsibility. It will be 100 times harder to take it back now, and I don’t see it happening without violence.

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          i felt while he did introduce some good policies, hes much more conservative than obama. dint replace dejoy, and added his supporters in the BOG? allowed to have trump have all the air-time for 4 years straight? im guessing they needed biden to draw the conservative leaning voters that wernt entirely maga? not to mention garland who is a gop SHILL TOO.

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            his decision to not fire humpty dumpty dejoy was one of the first red flags I noticed months into his presidency.

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        Look at democrats now. Still doing absolutely nothing. Even if they won they still wouldn’t have stopped Trump or Musk. They’d probably just stand aside if there was another Jan 6.

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    I am wondering if the mods of news@lemmy.world and politics@lemmy.world regret censoring the people who rightfully said these things and it would cost us the election. Like there’s mods in here who go “yeah that sucks, I knew it.” but also just defended Biden/Harris and removed good faith users who posted citations that even their beloved Media Bias Bot said was a good source.

    They did it, banned the people who said it, and then people went “where are all those critics now? i guess putin turned them off! hurr hurr haw haw!”

    Genuinely wonder if they question their choices of just doing this for free with literally zero benefit to their website and the country as a whole.

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      I am wondering if the mods of news@lemmy.world and politics@lemmy.world regret censoring the people who rightfully said these things

      Probably still thinking “This is just a Russian disinfo campaign to smeer the libs!”

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      Genuinely wonder if they question their choices of just doing this for free with literally zero benefit to their website and the country as a whole.

      No, they dig their head in the sand and continue to play stupid. If they ever actually acknowledged reality they’d feel bad, so that’s not gonna happen

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        Just posting to remind/inform new users there’s been repeated drama with .world policies and mod/admin team in that past. It caused a lot of people to spread to smaller, more varied instances. Which is actually a good thing.

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          I just started and still don’t understand this lemmy. I thought one of the perks was being able to interact on any server despite which one holds your account.

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            You can, as long as the hosting server welcomes your interaction. They also have the freedom to NOT allow you (Or anyone else) submit content.

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            The way it works is communities are hosted on the instances and when moderators do things in communities that makes people mad those people can only go to that community’s instance administrators.

            And then people get really angry at instance operators and admins with differing policies and rules about content and moderation.

            So those conflicts can and do drive some culture wars. (Ex: Blahaj has little tolerance for gatekeepers, .ml has no patience for american liberal politics, .world is particular about zionism, and so on.)

            But otherwise except for instances that defederate from each other the perk is absolutely that instances don’t really matter for registering and posting as a user.

            At most just check the instance rules before posting and you’ll probably be just fine on Lemmy.

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            Yeah that’s true more or less. Some instances block others for ideological or technical reasons. Sometimes posts/comments take time to propagate across the network. But in general yeah you can see everything on all the other instances regardless where your home account is. You could even spin up your own instance and see everything, all the back-end traffic and raw data, if you wanted.

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              That’s really interesting. Are the people/entities who own individual servers (or even certain servers) known to the general public? I love the idea of social media not being centralized in the hands of billionaires, but I worry about trusting all of the same information to someone whose identity I don’t know at all. Flip a coin, they’re probably Russian or Chinese.

              Basically I’m just asking about how/why we trust the owners of these servers. I still have a lot to learn about this technology.

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                Most of them are pretty visible and interact in their communities and I’m sure their contact info would be relatively easy to find.

                But yeah I don’t think there are any rules demanding they be public and you definitely should not trust them by default. They’re people just like anyone else and can have their own agendas and ulterior motives.