• PlausibleDupont@jlai.lu
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    I mean let’s face it… Insurances will probably give you more money for your car then potential buyers these days

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    Why so many people are cheerfully cheering for burning teslas owned by random people when it seems it would be easier to burn this fucking nazi asshole? Just get rid of the source of the problem…

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      burning teslas owned by random people when it seems it would be easier to burn this fucking nazi asshole?

      Because simply in practical terms, it’s the other way around. There’s a Tesla right next door, but only one Musk somewhere, probably not where you are. And mostly, one has personal bodyguards, while the others just sit on the road.

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        Really? Ah wow, never thought it would be that hard… That’s sarcasm by the way, since we are stating the obvious. Also you forgot to mention, one does nothing against FElon and the other ends FElon.

        I anyway hate the idea of inciting violence (but sometimes you just need to get it out) and can’t really wrap my head at how many people are in comments in Lemmy out for blood (well, I kind of understand, the situation is bleak to say the least, the issue is how many think violence is a good solution for real, there’s a discussion for violent revolution, but violence alone is useless, but I digress), I’d rather he rots in a cell somewhere and all his money is taken away to do something useful with, he’d probably hate that much more than anything else. Same with Amazon Dickzos… Well that’s lame, couldn’t come up with a good name for him yet. Bezos anyway.

        But anyway, if the first lady trump is still free and worse, in a position of power in the government, after all he has done (literal treason, rape, …), I’m not holding my breath for the nazi asshole to get to prison.

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      Yeah I don’t agree with vandalizing random people’s property.

      Tesla dealerships on the other hand are fair game, my day perks up when I see those news articles

      • Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world
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        Non permanent stuff is cool to me, like notes suggesting you sell the car. Actual vandalism though isn’t cool, they didn’t know (hopefully) that Musk was going off the deep end when they bought the car.

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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    Last I checked, being the man who oversees a genocide does not make you innocent. In fact, it makes you just as bad, if not worse, than the people following orders.

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      I’d say worse. In the least, people carrying out orders might be doing so out of fear for their own life. It doesn’t excuse it, but on the scale I’d say that’s much better than putting people in a position to kill or be killed.

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      By reliable accounts some of Hitler’s last words were him expressing that while sad he didn’t really improve anything for Germany, at least he killed millions of Jews. Hitler wanted the credit.

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          Yeah, and people don’t get more serious about shoving racists and neo nazis face in it. Hitler was a meth head with a deformed penis who blew his brains out cowaring in fear as Mel Brooks drove a tank into Berlin. Dude was shit, and no he didn’t ‘‘at least do good things for Germany’’ he ensured their destruction by being a military tactical dumbass starting all these wars all at once, then using all kinds of resources rounding up Jews, building factories to exterminate people, lowering their population as they ran out of soldiers. Do you know how fucking stupid you have to be to do things this way? No one was ever like ‘‘hay maybe if we just stop rounding up Jews with a huge amount of guys and building extermination camps we could have a few more soldiers and bombs to fight with’’ no. They just pretended it made sense and kept following his orders even when they new it was bullshit, AND they let him intentionally send units to their deaths for ‘‘not fighting hard enough’’ to win using his dumb fucking tactics. This guy was fucking stupid, the whole idealogy of following ONE dude no matter what is the most idiotic system of government possible.

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            I wonder how much American society has suffered since the History Channel abdicated its role of educating dumb Americans by playing actual WW2 documentaries all day.

            Everything you said used to be a given. It’s insane that we have to explain this shit.

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              I haven’t had a TV in a while. Has the History Channel switched from being the Hitler Channel to the Freak Show/Family Reality Meltdown channel?

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        That would be perfect. And I want it to be an accidental one, not that mind the idea of him being murdered. It would just so much more funny if he died due to the shear incompetance of his company. Or if a piece of a space X rocket fell on him lol

  • Trent Hellacious@lemm.ee
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    I’ve been reliably informed that, unlike Reddit, I can reply “Fuck Musk”. I hope that’s the case. If it isn’t, still “Fuck Musk”.

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    As much as “I was just following orders” is not enough to excuse someone of their responsibility in atrocities, “I was just issuing orders” will not excuse anyone either.

    Anyone who thinks that just because someone didn’t pull the trigger, that means they’re not guilty, you can get your ass back in line to lick elons boots.

    This is in the same vein as “Hitler did some good things” kind of cognitive dissonance. While the statement may not be wholly false, the fact that anyone could overlook everything he did that was bad, to find some small piece of something he did that can be construed as “good” is simply trying to put an objectively evil person into a better light, when they do not deserve it.

    There are plenty of misunderstood people in history that did very good things, and were killed/maimed/murdered/imprisoned/tarred/feathered/whatever, because they did something that the wrong people saw as bad.

    Nobody should ever try to find a shining light of good deep down in the black abyss of Hitler’s life.

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      Reminds me of a Brazilian advert for a magazine in the 90s. It started with some large black and white dots, slowly zooming out, and the narration went something like:

      "This man was an artist. When he took power, his country was in a deep economic recession, but he brought prosperity back and made it home to some of the most important industrial companies still functioning today. To this day, many people look up to him. This man… (zoom out finishes) was Adolf Hitler.

      It’s possible to tell a lie telling only truths."

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        I feel like absent Hitler, they would not have self organized to put people in ovens. Whereas the workers would still have gone out and produced wealth (for another capitalist).

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    Took you guys over a decade to get here. Thank you for listening to me and mocking me and calling me a ludite because I hated Elon Musk and everything he represented. Also, visit Thunderfoot’s youtube channel, apologise and thank him for his activism.

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      Why do you feel so positive about Thunderf00t? The guy is supposed to be a physicist and does not even think about the squared cube law. He got full of his own shit once he became popular many years ago.

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          Any scientist should know about such an extremely basic thing.

          If the does not even have the slightest idea about what he is talking about, he needs to shut the fuck up. But he does not and people believe him.

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                Where and when he doesn’t know what he talks about. Given his works are open access it should be easy for you to elaborate on that. I look forward to your rebuttal.

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                  Watch his video about the hyperloop where he pulls a vacuum behind a little ball and then let’s it fly away by breaking the vacuum. Fuck I remember way too many details for this piece of shit.

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      You’re so right. You saw Elon for what he was when literally every other person on earth thought he was awesome until 2 months ago.

      THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE BRAVE WARRIOR 07

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          You’re pretending to be sarcastic because you know how pathetic it is that you’re unironically saying this shit

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      you gotta be joking, thunderf00t is among the most unbearable, ignorant, most self-assured assholes going. he harassed random women for having opinions he disagreed with for years.

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          i’m european, i used to be a fan of thunderf00t too. but he became really really bad, he was an alt-right troll for awhile, and only really split from the rest of the pack because they didn’t agree with him about brexit.

          he is a pathetic, ignorant, quote-mining bigot who should be completely forgotten. being right about elon musk is a stopped clock being right twice a day situation. there are plenty of other channels which did a far better job of pointing out elon’s grifts without also posting 3,000 videos about how anita sarkeezian is the anti-christ

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            You’re most likely not European.

            The fact you don’t put Anita and Elon in the same bag, US grifters, tells me all I need to know. Anita is a blundering idiot that grifted a bunch of parasites into a market that should have never existed. Instead of using Alanah Pearce (Lawd has she been harassed) Lucy James and the like, that actually work in the field and know the ACTUAL problems rather than creating rage bate to cash in on victim points. She and the much maligned sweet baby were consulting on games that were subcontracting slavelike labour in Indonesia and other SE Asian countries during their consulting. Most of the victims at those places were women. Grifters gonna grift! Sarkeesian and her ilk have done nothing for the feminist movement (which I’m a part of), worse, they set us back decades. She left all blue collar women on whom the lion’s share of injustice falls upon, behind. She could have addressed the preponderance of women in QA and community management and how that disproportionately makes them more likely to be laid off. How also in gaming, they make less for the same work. How career progress is usually limited by patriarchal hierarchical organisations in AAA studios. Fuck that noise, feminism is bitching about a bald dude killing some nuns in spandex in a videogame. She ignored the real issues because those were very likely to avoid her getting hired to consult on games as the C types don’t really like left wing talking points flying around the office. Fucking bougie causes.

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              jesus fucking CHRIST you have some baggage here, huh?

              putting anita and elon into the same category is literally one of the most delusional takes i have ever heard. you do realize that one of those people is one of the wealthiest living people in the world, a nazi, who bought a social media platform because he was so desperate for approval he decided to buy it…

              and you’re comparing that to some fucking totally random popular feminist who made literally a baby’s first feminist analysis video series???

              anita wasn’t trying to solve every feminist issue in the world, you realize? she wanted to make the videos she wanted to make.

              anita’s videos didn’t bully or harass anyone, they didn’t go on and on about how men demand respect because of their genitals, they didn’t personally target anyone. they did a very introductory analysis into feminist theory for media criticism.

              thunderf00t’s average video is significantly worse than the worst thing anita ever did.

              also, why the fuck would i lie about being from europe… you’re just wrong and you want to jump to conclusions…

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                You lost me at:

                literally a baby’s first feminist analysis video series???

                The field of feminism, particularly in video games, is wide and old. Start with Nina Huntemann.

                Grifters gonna grift and cash in on other’s work and victim points.

                Also, when the average US american tells you they’re italian or Irish c’ause peepaw was Italian/Irish I’m skeptical. Also your post history is full of americanisms.

                Go read some research and then come back to lecture me about feminism.

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                  yeah fuck off, i am not lowering myself to debate feminism with anyone who is a self-confessed fan of the author of the feminism vs facts video series… get a fucking grip on reality.

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    For a while I was holding on to sanity thinking “he’s an idiot and he’s just drawing attention to himself.” But now, to anyone that was still thinking “maybe he really is that clumsy, maybe he didn’t really mean it”, this is it. If you’re not getting it now you never will. He’s literally, in the literal sense of literally, a Nazi.

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        No.

        This sort of argument both minimises his accountability for his actions by blaming factors outside his control, and is incredibly insulting to the millions of people with actual mental disabilities who manage not to be racist assholes.

        Elon is a Nazi, full stop.

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        I’ve known a number of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. They’re often quite kind-hearted, loving people. Musk is not. You don’t need to insult them twice by comparing Musk to them, and using hateful terminology while you do it.

        Maybe call Musk an asshole, a nazi, a shitass fucking fleck of rotten cumstain stuck to Trump’s taint instead.

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          What do those people have to do with Musk being a retard? Would youcall them retarded? I’m guessing not. Most people don’t use the world that way anymore.

          It’s clearly been repurposed and it’s getting quite silly how upset.

          The definition of the word has nothing do with disabilities:

          To keep delaying; to continue to hinder; to prevent from progress; to render more slow in progress; to impede; to hinder;

          When someone calls Musk a retard they obviously do not mean he is disabled. They are referring to the base definition of the word.

          Now downvote me because you disagree but be aware of the irony in retarding the word from being changed from an insult towards people who are disabled to a word that describes a deep rooted willful ignorance.