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    [Trump wrote] “The necessary Pardoning Documents were not explained to, or approved by, Biden.”

    “Not explained to.

    Dipshit is really telling on himself here that actually reading an EO didn’t even occur to him, he relies on others to dumb them down for him.

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      This isn’t a country of law and order anymore. Laws only apply when Trump wants them to apply. There is no logic beyond that.

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      What, are you suggesting that our virile Supreme Leader, renowned for his stamina and attention span, didn’t sign all 1,600 J6 pardons by hand?

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        I believe our strong, virile leader spent all their waking hours signing those 3,300 J6 pardons while big, strong men stood their with tears rolling down their cheeks.

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        His aren’t signed by a pen at all and could easily be fraudulent because of it. Think about it, an 8bit graphic is much easier to copy than 32bit.

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    after autopen controversy

    There go the media again implicitly giving credence to Trump’s nonsense. There was no “autopen controversy” except Trump making this groundless assertion. They make it sound like he’s responding to a real controversy.

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    This is another one of those ‘scary and must riot’ thresholds. The presidential pardon powers are absolute. If he attempts to dismantle this… much like dismantling the 1st Amendment that he has already begun to do… rioting and articles of impeachment should have already begun.

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      I mean, I’m not really sure presidential pardons should even exist, but they do, and it’s a problem that Trump is trying to get around them to persecute the opposition party.

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          To be fair, someone willing to abuse pardons that wantonly is never meant to become President in the first place. The Electoral College was supposed to be one protection against that, but obviously that has been a massive failure.

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      This is another one of those ‘scary and must riot’ thresholds.

      Americans are known to miss that boat. Remember when Americans rioted over the 1985 MOVE bombing in Philadelphia when they dropped bombs on the city and let blocks burn? Or that time when Americans rioted over the police and government firebombing Tulsa? Or that time Americans rioted over the people who caused the '08 financial crisis not receiving justice?

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    I hate when articles like this use words like controversy. There is no controversy when someone just makes up that a standard thing is now an issue.

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      That’s the Fox model. Have your talking head invent visit on the morning program, have them debate it on the afternoon program, then have the evening program report on the controversy.

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    Ridiculous. A man who breaks laws and violates the constitution daily calling out his predecessor for using the wrong kind of pen while attempting to protect people from persecution. If there were a functioning justice system this would be dismissed out of hand.

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      My concern here is whether anyone is actually going to stand up to him. He’s clearly flagging that he’s going to go after these people and it’s going to be dependent on whether the DOJ actually pushes back or not.

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        it’s going to be dependent on whether the DOJ actually pushes back or not.

        Lmao.

        As if that’s even a question. He picked who he picked for exactly this kind of thing. There will be no pushback.

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      Must feel good to be morally superiors to everyone. I bet it’ll feel good too knowing you were right when the gestapo come and take you and your family away. But hey, you sure told em! /s

      Stop with the “high ground” bullshit and get out there and actively do something about it.

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        Fuck off dude. I’ve been going to protests for this shit for a fucking decade, and trying to inform friends and family on the nuance of this shit for about the same length of time. My sister is married to a dark-skinned Indian dude; my niece is mixed-race. I have literal skin in the game when the white supremacists come looking for undesirables.

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        Like?

        Jumping up and down screaming at a building with a sign does absolutely nothing.

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      Well, he’s not in prison for treason or anything related to classified documents being mishandled, soooooooo…

      Rule of law means nothing in the US anymore unless you’re poor. If it mattered, we would have had different presidential candidates from the start.

      If anyone still cares in the government, none of them care enough to actually do anything but stand by and watch. Maybe give a half-hearted “yeah way to take a stand” after the fact when someone gets dragged out of the room by the fascists.

      Excellent domain name for your instance, by the way. Absolutely horrifying in just the right way.

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    If this sticks, then maybe the next democrat in office can reverse all of the Jan 6 pardons?

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      That is wishful thinking. The democrats have never responded in kind to republicans breaking precedent. If there’s any lesson to be learned from the 2024 election, it is that democrats hold “precedent”, “decorum”, and “mature pragmatism” to be more important than winning (or quelling fascism).

      It’s the same wishful thinking as people who were saying “Biden could use the new presidential inmunity SCOTUS ruling to legally assassinate trump!”

      Understand that both democrats and republicans are driving us off a cliff.