Old Graphics =/= Bad Graphics
edit: furthermore old =/= bad. Old is a quantitative measure and bad is qualitative. Trying to use one measure as the litmus for the other is like saying “there are five apples on that tree, they must taste terrible.”
inb4: i dont care if it isnt a perfect analogy and there’s actually some study somewhere that showed that apple trees that retain prime number multiples of fruit on their branches statistically taste worse when rated on a blind taste test.
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Back and forth, forever.
The thing that really stops me from enjoying a lot of old games I liked back in the day is the abysmal controls. Years of having good controls has ruined my ability to go back to when devs were still trying to figure out the whole 3D thing.
Years of having good controls has ruined my ability
Where my WAXD gamers at? The Chaos Engine was a fun game, but the controls were a bit weird.
Damn, there’s a blast from the past.
Yeah I tried going back to play the witcher 1 and 2 after finishing 3. I just could not get into 1 at all and 2 had some wack as well with where you could go. I could not even beat the first boss.
That’s understandable.
They were not very good on a technical level at launch, either. I never beat 1 back in the day because I got to a point where it would just crash consistently at the same spot, every time.
It’s better if you look at games that are not 3d.
New games look like realistic pencil drawings that were smudged to shit.
I literally have Elden Ring screenshots on my PS4 that look worse than Super Mario 64 screenshots.
It’s like modern games all have a screen shader at the end specifically to fuck up the graphics and blur details. I know it’s TAA and friends but damn. It feels weird that so many games have broken graphics that only look good when taking promotional screenshots. And people call them good looking games lol
… so many games have broken graphics that only look good when taking promotional screenshots.
This is a huge pet peeve of mine, especially when looking at the screenshots or even videos of a game.
You’ll be looking at the store page for like a top-down strategy game, and all they show are a bunch of cinematic closeups of character’s faces with FXAA 99999 and 0 screenshots showing the UI. Bro, that is NOT what playing the game looks like.
I want to see the UI. I Like The UI. I like the strategic camera angle. I am an ACTUAL FAN of this genre and have willingly put myself in your sales funnel - show me the features of the actual game that I want to purchase and play, please.
They’re not bad graphics, they’re good graphics… for their time
Nahhh, some of them really were bad graphics. Morrowind and Mario Sunshine came out in the same year.
The scope of each of those games is so vastly different that I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. The art styles are wildly different too.
Morrowind is beautiful :(
I also frequently lie to myself.
The world of Morrowind, in aggregate, is beautiful and sometimes genuinely breathtaking.
Individual models may look like deep fried asshole, but they come together to form an aesthetic that I personally like quite a lot.
so I totally forgot that I commented on this, and was coming in to make a comment about how aesthetic is so much more important than graphical fidelity, then saw that I had already made a quippy comment.
oops.
Different styles. All Morrowind’s missing is ragdolls and physics.
Though Oblivion Rosacea is hard to look past…
More like kilochad amirite?
Bad???
Nay, that is Megachad, we didn’t have such large storage back then.
Fact: PS1 games in an emulator with increased resolution looks super cool
More than cool, add in other enhancements and most 3D games don’t need a remaster that will most likely be bloated data-wise.
Particularly when it comes to vertex colors (see Spyro’s skyboxes) rendering at modern res immaculately, upselling into photorealism is just throwing out the smartest and most unique thing the game had.
not only based, but also gay.
because gay is good, therefore the original point is good.
edit: lemmy does not respect formatting 100%. I wanted larger gaps between sections.
Sometimes I play old games because of the graphics, not despite them. For nostalgia and the fact that my crappy laptop can handle them.
You can have my Project 1999 when you pry it from my cold, dead, fingers.
I love chunky pixels and great gameplay. I love games that you can get hundreds of hours of fun out of, only take up 1gb of storage, and can run smooth on a dinosaur PC. No DRM, supporting a small team who respect you as a supporter and passionately make a piece of interactive art you get to enjoy the rest of your life.
The graphics snobs have the worst brain dead takes man. Not being able to enjoy a game just because it ask you to use creativity and imagination to interpret the art that acompanies the interactive experience. But I guess to each their own. Who knows maybe in 20 years when their old favorite games look like shit their tune might change. In the meantime I hope they enjoy the 170gb weekly updates for the newest unoptimized reheated game franchise. I hear the newest version of the Ark dinosaur game is doing just great, I’m sure the next assassins creed and cod and whatever Bethesda is making in between skyrim releases will give you a novel and memorable experience.
Only 1GB. A lot of the good old games fit on a CD and had enough space left to have a full album of red book music!
I think Final Fantasy IX looks outstanding. That’s fairly old now.
What do you mean by “Bad Graphics” ?
Bubsy 3D, or Super Mario 64
Bubsy 3D
Is that PS1 Hagrid?
Yeah! And people who play unpopular sports despite small crowd sizes - what are they, insane?
