The president and his allies in Congress are targeting the financial, digital and legal machinery that powers the Democratic Party and much of the progressive political world.
“World” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here although much of “the free world” does benefit greatly from charities with strong ties to the Democrats.
But if we restrict “world” to mean “United States”? Yes, it is progressives. Because the DNC is dismissive and combative to progressives. Republicans are outright hostile. There is a reason that the biggest mainstream push we have seen to progressive politics was when Sanders finally stopped his primary bullshit and pseudo-joined the Democrats (seriously. Sanders trick to never run against anyone on the left was both hilarious AND assholish) and actually effective politicians like AOC joined up.
So… maybe stop focusing on stupid purity test bullshit and realize that progressive politics is also under very serious attack?
Ok, I know this is a very scary situation, very dangerous and will harm all… but maybe this could boost more progressives ( the actual left) vs centralists (liberals)?
Moderates have to use party funding as their majority source. They are business funded more so than the leftists.
Leftists are better using other methods which cannot be blocked as easily, and there is flexibility here. They are traditionally starved of funds by the party too, so often scrounge anyway and will feel less impact.
Also this could help promote third parties that are actually well intentioned and not used as spoilers to divide the vote in local politics
Promote third parties by… defunding everyone except the republicans?
I do fully agree this is the time for actual progressives to either take over the party or pivot to a new one en masse. But “They are attacking the liberals, not us” sure as hell ain’t it.
Progressives organize grassroots better than moderates. Third parties do even more grassroots.
It’s beneficial to all should they start to get more exposure than liberals even if they loose elections; we, as a country, need new social grassroots to do anything real to get out of this mess here.
There is no political or violent solution right now. It’s only the new activism which will restore law
Progressives organize grassroots better than moderates
Citation requested. Because the big push for progressive politics in the past decade very much coincides with progressive voices getting boosted by liberal platforms.
There is no political or violent solution right now. It’s only the new activism which will restore law
Activism in a world where it is increasingly becoming a felony that gets you sent to gitmo to egg a tesla? And where all voices that aren’t the republicans are actively being shut down in every venue?
I strongly encourage you to actually look outside and think through a plan rather than spewing the same tired nonsense that doesn’t work. Democrats need to learn that begging conservatives to give them a hug doesn’t do shit. And progressives need to learn that they need to get a voice.
Or you can keep sounding like a tankie accelerationist. Your choice.
The progressive candidates in the 2020 primary were pretty regularly the top fundraisers from small dollar donors and refused to do big money fundraisers. And they were often the top two total fundraisers.
Really? Then why didn’t we have Bernie against trump?
Yes, there is a strong correlation between progressive (well… more populist but…) messaging and grass roots donations. Those are worth jack all against corporate interests and super PACs. And once you get past the state (arguably local) elections? They just can’t compete.
We need grass roots support to convince people to actually get out to vote. We need dump trucks of money from the corporations salting the earth to make sure people know how to vote for.
I think you do not understand what I mean, or what successful activism can do. Also, interestingly there is not one Tesla in my small town . And I cannot afford eggs. So, I guess I am all out of ideas.
The other commenter here made the salient point about fund raising.
Liberal world, not progressive world.
And TBH, that’s what they campaigned on.
Drain the swamp and all that.
It really is on their voters that can’t distinguish fact from fiction.
Actblue is used by every progressive.
“World” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here although much of “the free world” does benefit greatly from charities with strong ties to the Democrats.
But if we restrict “world” to mean “United States”? Yes, it is progressives. Because the DNC is dismissive and combative to progressives. Republicans are outright hostile. There is a reason that the biggest mainstream push we have seen to progressive politics was when Sanders finally stopped his primary bullshit and pseudo-joined the Democrats (seriously. Sanders trick to never run against anyone on the left was both hilarious AND assholish) and actually effective politicians like AOC joined up.
So… maybe stop focusing on stupid purity test bullshit and realize that progressive politics is also under very serious attack?
Ok, I know this is a very scary situation, very dangerous and will harm all… but maybe this could boost more progressives ( the actual left) vs centralists (liberals)?
Moderates have to use party funding as their majority source. They are business funded more so than the leftists.
Leftists are better using other methods which cannot be blocked as easily, and there is flexibility here. They are traditionally starved of funds by the party too, so often scrounge anyway and will feel less impact.
Also this could help promote third parties that are actually well intentioned and not used as spoilers to divide the vote in local politics
Promote third parties by… defunding everyone except the republicans?
I do fully agree this is the time for actual progressives to either take over the party or pivot to a new one en masse. But “They are attacking the liberals, not us” sure as hell ain’t it.
Progressives organize grassroots better than moderates. Third parties do even more grassroots.
It’s beneficial to all should they start to get more exposure than liberals even if they loose elections; we, as a country, need new social grassroots to do anything real to get out of this mess here.
There is no political or violent solution right now. It’s only the new activism which will restore law
Citation requested. Because the big push for progressive politics in the past decade very much coincides with progressive voices getting boosted by liberal platforms.
Activism in a world where it is increasingly becoming a felony that gets you sent to gitmo to egg a tesla? And where all voices that aren’t the republicans are actively being shut down in every venue?
I strongly encourage you to actually look outside and think through a plan rather than spewing the same tired nonsense that doesn’t work. Democrats need to learn that begging conservatives to give them a hug doesn’t do shit. And progressives need to learn that they need to get a voice.
Or you can keep sounding like a tankie accelerationist. Your choice.
The progressive candidates in the 2020 primary were pretty regularly the top fundraisers from small dollar donors and refused to do big money fundraisers. And they were often the top two total fundraisers.
Really? Then why didn’t we have Bernie against trump?
Yes, there is a strong correlation between progressive (well… more populist but…) messaging and grass roots donations. Those are worth jack all against corporate interests and super PACs. And once you get past the state (arguably local) elections? They just can’t compete.
We need grass roots support to convince people to actually get out to vote. We need dump trucks of money from the corporations salting the earth to make sure people know how to vote for.
I think you do not understand what I mean, or what successful activism can do. Also, interestingly there is not one Tesla in my small town . And I cannot afford eggs. So, I guess I am all out of ideas.
The other commenter here made the salient point about fund raising.