The amount of people who died as a result of Brian Thompson’s leadership of united healthcare should be investigated instead
Western democracy is at risk until this is done. We literally don’t deserve to exist if we can’t figure this basic stuff out - i.e. when our own people are dying, maybe the empty private hospital beds and ample staff resources should be used to save those lives. Because people are… gonna die otherwise. The fact that anything else needs to be said is the problem.
‘Western style democracy’ has never been truly democratic because of how money influences elections and politicians. True democracy isn’t possible as long as there exists a capital class in society. The capital class will not give up its wealth without a class war.
Hence the need to remove
- money as Free Speach
- corporations are people
- lobbying is legal
But changes to these policies won’t occur because these policies already exist.
And they are self sustaining, as long as money can buy politicians, no politician would ever be able to stop it on their own.
If the courts had intervened to stop Brian Thompson before his healthcare murder spree then maybe Luigi wouldn’t be being prosecuted right now. This trial isnt about luigi, its about covering up the chain of political failures that led us here.
A single death is a tragedy; A million deaths is a statistic.
Luigi killed a dad, husband, ceo, etc, etc etc.
Brian just inflated some numbers…
I hate how the world works.
A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is record profits for a health insurance company
I have it on good authority from my son that Luigi was in a haunted mansion that day.
When the government fails to protect us, and corporations won’t protect us, we must take it upon ourselves to engage in self defense. Luigi did nothing wrong.
Love to see it
What does this mean, exactly? More resources to hire more lawyers or something?
Not really, Luigi already had tons of money.
What it means is a legislator who might have actually had a positive impact on changing US Healthcare did NOT receive a 30k donation.
We can’t outspend the health insurance industry, especially not in the long run. Legislators will always side with those who can continually give large donations and pay full-time lobbyists. It is incredibly naive - bordering on delusional - to think we can take on even just one sector of the oligarchy by working within their captured system.
Now is the time to apply pressure from the outside, organize and build our own mechanisms for affecting change. This will require solidarity, and for people to make collective and coordinated use of their agency with regards to their labor and spending.
The DNC literally passed laws against large campaign contributions decades ago, it was overturned by the SCOTUS citizens united decision years later, and has been a core DNC platform policy ever since to reverse citizens united.
So yes, you can, but people aren’t, because people are idiots.
it was overturned by the SCOTUS citizens united decision years later
So it was overturned decades ago, was never reinstated, and you think that’s an example of a win?
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No, it was overturned in 2010, not decades ago. The law the decision overturned was the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, which was over 2 decades ago. The DNC had been trying to pass it since 1995.
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You people always complain about a party not changing things when we NEVER give them the power to do so.
President Barack Obama and Senator John Kerry called for an amendment to overrule the decision but it went ignored. In 2011, Senator Bernie Sanders proposed the Saving American Democracy Amendment, which would reverse the court’s ruling, LINK HERE. Bernie Sanders and others have repeatedly introduced bills to reverse it ever since.
The reason things are the way they are is because people vote Republican. Full Stop.
when we NEVER give them the power to do so
“We” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. I’m not voting Republican, you’re not voting Republican, and Luigi isn’t voting Republican.
“do nothing about it until the midterms at which point we will suddenly convince 200 million people to vote Democrat” isn’t going to cut it.
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Taking out the leader of an evil (corpo) empire is heroism, not subject to murder charges.
The real uplifting news is bootlickers getting kicked in their metaphorical shins in the comment section.
I’d lick a boot if they payed enough, but they’re not. I get that other people are worse off than me, but seriously, what the fuck? The current regime isn’t paying. period. I’m angry and I don’t know what to do with it.
Gonna wanna see the source code on that “Pray” button. I don’t think it actually does anything.
I just saw it wtf
on desktop the button has a counter for how many people have pressed it, so it does something :)
Holy crap! Do we now have the technology to quantify thoughts and prayers?
we have the technology!
I don’t want to dampen the good mood, but even if this is sent anonymously, is there any risk of the information of who is the donor being hacked, especially by corporate overlords who have every incentive to see Luigi and his supporters get punished?
It’s anonymous to us, not the website. Payments are the most trackable thing in the world
How a 30k donation to a murderer counts as “uplifting news”? If anything it’s depressing
There is no evidence that Luigi killed anyone. Innocent until proven guilty.
You don’t get to celebrate him for doing the murder white also claiming he didn’t do it.
You have evidence he murdered someone? Why haven’t you told anyone?!
He told the dude that made his Filet-o-fish.
Why are you lying? Nobody’s been convicted of murder.
They’ve already decided to play judge and jury, and I suspect would enjoy playing executioner.
You mean like Luigi did?
Lots of people enjoy probably-Luigi playing executioner too. When you kill people for profit and you’re otherwise untouchable, people are gonna figure out how to get back at you.
Are you referring to the crime for which he has been accused but not yet convicted?
Do two wrongs make a right? Because if they do, I have some news for you.
Two wrongs? Murderers going to prison isn’t a wrong. Luigi hasn’t done any right by you or me, don’t waste efforts serving him.
They’re saying that they find due process to be lacking and the prosecution to be political.
Do you think it’s depressing that someone would donate money to the defense of someone they think is being inappropriately prosecuted?
If you think they’re guilty, you should still want them to get the best defense possible, so that when they’re found guilty it’s airtight. Our justice system is based on an adversarial model. If the prosecution, with the resources of the state, can’t successfully argue that they did it and that their arrest and all procedures were properly followed, do you really want that to still mean someone faces the death penalty?Luigi has tons of money, though. He doesn’t need your money, and even if he did your money still isn’t helping anybody.
What does that have to do with anything?
Someone with resources gave money to aid the defense of someone they think is being treated unjustly after watching and seeing what they thought was mistreatment.
Are you just trying to aggravate people, or do you actually have a point?
My point is your money matters andit can do so much good.
And this isn’t it.
Do you think I made this donation?
I replied to someone saying it was sad someone gave money to a murderer.
I don’t think it’s sad someone gave money to help someone they think might not be a murderer, and even if you think they are one, it’s not sad someone had the impulse to help push back against what they saw as a biased application of the Justice system.I understand you think that’s misguided in this case. Do you understand how that’s kind of a nonsequitur?
The donation doesn’t go to a CEO who has murdered hundreds, possibly thousands of people.
It is going to someone who acted in defense of others. Or who might not be the person who even did that, which is why he deserves a fair trial.
Funny, if that hypothetical murderer really died wouldn’t that mean the “killings” would have stopped? Looks like nothing has changed.
So if someone else goes out and shoots the new CEO that would make arresting Luigi pointless? "Looks like nothing changed, another CEO got shot anyway.’
this is like saying donating to a guy who killed someone actively killing others is never uplifting news. Sure leave the school shooters alone
If that man was really responsible for those deaths then the killing would have stopped.
The blood is on the hands of voters.
as CEO, even if you arent the one who made the executive decision to make the denials, they still have the power to change the internal policy. It’s a FAR well known issue that UHC denied a lot of coverage. He was outright complicit with it, and unlike most people, actually had the power to overturn the problem.
Then we should be trying to solve that problem instead of throwing money at a rich kid murderer.
If that man was really responsible for those deaths then the killing would have stopped.
If Luigi was really responsible for killing that guy in New York then arresting him would have caused the killings in New York to stop. The fact that people have been killed in New York since Luigi was arrested proves his arrest was pointless.
He didn’t murder anyone.
What are people calling him a hero for then?
He did a chore that needed doing and we’re all proud of him, that’s what.
So he did it.
If some immoral person was killing a child and someone came up behind them and shot them that wouldn’t be considered murder.
How’s that boot taste?
Yeah TBH I dislike Luigi a little bit more every time I see his face.
People are actually worshiping this guy for some reason.
Did you stop to consider the principles of why people feel that way?
The animalistic “unga bunga club problems to death” part of their brain combined with anarchist and tankie propaganda campaigns promoting insurgency and chaos, as well as just a general lack of understanding of why things are the way they are.
as well as just a general lack of understanding of why things are the way they are.
Then enlighten us and bring us out of our darkness.
I’m just going to stick to the most recent contributing events
In 2009-2011 the US Senate had 58 DNC seats and 2 caucusing IND seats totaling filibuster-proof 60 votes needed to pass reforms for 72 workings days, and they attempted to pass a method of funding treatment for people who could not afford it, sometimes referred to as singlepayer or public option healthcare. Due to one of the caucusing IND votes not voting with the DNC, and every single Republican voting Nay, it did not pass.
We gave them less seats in the next two elections. Every single year since 2015 we’ve given that party who wanted healthcare reform less than 50 senate seats.
We’ve created the system that Brian Thompson profited off of, and when we killed him all we did was free up a spot for yet another out of tens of millions of terrible people to hop into and do exactly the same thing, as has always been done since health insurance was conceived and always will do because we refuse to change it. No matter how many more people die, no matter how much blood is on our hands.
And because people don’t understand that they think the resistance is people like Luigi, who accomplish nothing, instead of the obvious solution right in front of us.
instead of the obvious solution right in front of us.
Sorry, what is that obvious solution?
If it’s voting I’ll remind you that in the last election one of the candidates directly stated they were going to be a dictator and less than a third of Americans voted against them. A third gleefully voted for the dictator, and a third didn’t bother to vote at all. What is this “obvious solution” that convinces 200 million people to vote the way you want them to?
Instead of giving your money to Luigi, give it to the DNC and to Bernie Sanders. Or better yet, use that money yourself and volunteer to help the parties who support the real solution.
Oh, go lick a boot, dweeb.
It’s the best news all day, go back to Reddit corporate shill
What did he say that was corporate shillery?
If you don’t know, you won’t understand.
You’re asleep at the wheel.
I agree. I don’t think this sub should get political.
Healthcare is only political to 1/3 of the country. Everyone else sees it for what it is: a human right
Unfortunately, human rights are political.
I think you’ll find across the spectrum, people are frustrated to the point where it’s not a political issue
Everything is political. The sooner you get over this “I’m tired of politics, let me enjoy my doomscrolling” attitude, the more respectable you’ll be.
No it isn’t. This is how subs like r/technology got ruined, the whole thing got filled with “political post that involves technology” instead of just “technology”.
Technology is one of the most politically charged topics possible. Even leaving aside big tech and AI stuff, you have the ideologues behind the open source movement, or the fact that a lot of our modern tech infrastructure is built on conflict resources and manufactured by forced labor. Politics ripple through every aspect of our lives.
Anything can be political but doesn’t have to be. A good technology sub would look something like this:
- New 10TB SSD announced at trade show
- Holograms are slightly better after new breakthrough
- GTA6 preorder numbers are out, will it save the PS5?
And instead it became a shitflinging cesspool of:
- Elon tweeted something stupid at 2am last night
- AOC said something about net neutrality
- Congressional republicans announced a tech bill that has no chance of becoming law
It actually is.
Everything is politically when you have people at the top wanting to take away your rights and be able to have their followers kill you in the streets.
It’s uplifting news and has nothing to do with politics. Perhaps Reddit is a better place for you
I agree it isn’t political but it’s definitely not uplifting, unless you’re some kind of murder cultist.
You forgot the “victim” denies medical claims for a living, bankrupting people. If you think he’s the victim, you’re the problem.
That “victim” worked at a “company” which still denies medical claims for a living, paying for the majority of claim holders medical via distribution of wealth.
The “reason” this is allowed is because “voters” keep choosing this system, and most recently voted to expand it by removing socialized healthcare for an addition 79 Million Americans.
And Luigi has done fuck all to even toss a wrench in.
Lfmao. He was the one who made those calls. Now the next CEO needs a visit by Mario.
I think you’ll find your opinion on this matter in the minority on Lemmy, but keep on blaming the “company” who aren’t run by “people” apparently.
You will never kill all the evil people in this world as long as people exist. There will always at least be you.
Lol, it’s the Schrödinger’s guilt. The news is supposed to be uplifting both because the guy is praised as a hero for killing someone and because he is presumed not guilty.
Personally, i don’t have any sympathy for him, regardless he’s guilty or not, some things he said are really disgusting.
Martin Luther thing said some disgusting things, if you lived back then, would you have no sympathy either?
Nobody deserves to be put in prison for allegedly killing CEOs, whether they did it or not.
“You stand accused of saving the lives of sick puppies with cancer. The penalty is death. How do you plead?”
Pathetic.
you don’t have to be into the whole killing part. me too. what’s up?
I just think that sending your own hard owned money to a murderer is pathetic, and everyone else upvoting this and encouraging this disgusting behaviour are also pathetic. This complete loss of all morals and integrity just because a victim was in a situation you politivally disagree with is completely embarassing.
it ain’t no victim. it’s literally all of us.
edit; also, morals and integrity? seriously?
That a health insurance company’s CEO getting killed receives so much support from so many people cannot be explained away by “political disagreement”. It is clear that the world is in a psychological crisis which affects everyone and billionaires who treat the world as a computer game are generally to blame. This guy is just a cog in the machine maybe an aspiring billionaire at best but not likely the one pulling the strings (such as share holders). Disregarding this reaction as the deviant behaviour of few politically charged individuals would be very far from the truth and is also likely the mistake that will be made by billionaires.
But making donations to a convicted felon who claims to be super rich and is nothing more than a con man and sexual abuser is ok? I choosing to stand with Luigi.
I, too, stand with Luigi, but that isn’t an argument; that’s whataboutism.
Slow clap we need more support
