• lennee@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    Oh yes it will get involved, the US will be kicked out but yes, NATO will be involved

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    An attack on one is an attack on all. I always wondered what would happen if one NATO country attacked another.

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        Yep. Because that’s exactly what happened with Greece and Turkey…

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          Well, it was close to happening with greece and turkey. And I dont think cyprus is quite the same thing as the US trying to take over greenland, is it?

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    Dumbass doesn’t even understand that NATO is a DEFENSIVE pact and that Denmark is a member. Not wanting to give you their territory doesn’t count as an attack.

    Also if he really cared about security he would have strengthened his ties with his allies instead of pushing them away. The US is far less secure now that it was 3 months ago.

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      NATO isn’t really defensive.

      It’s two main Engagements - Kosovo and Afghanistan - were pretty solidly offensive imo.

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        3 days ago
        1. Joining and organizing within your local community to create connections with others is incredibly powerful, will lay the groundwork for effective resistance.
        2. We can effect things drastically with a general strike. This can massively impact their income streams, and can bring a government to its knees if done on a large enough scale.
        3. Join the IWW and attempt to unionize your workplace, so that the general strike is even more effective.

        If we put in the work, we can resist this and we can win. Join up with allies while we still can easily!

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          I don’t actually think that is all that’s needed. Trump is a symptom. He didn’t write Project 2025. He’s not the one with these ideas.

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            Correct. Killing Hitler would not have stopped WW2, and killing Trump doesn’t solve America’s problems.

            I would party for a week solid if that fucker caught a bullet, but it’s not a solution in itself.

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              We could have been partying in July, but some high school kid couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn apparently.

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            He didn’t write Project 2025. He’s not the one with these ideas.

            True, but his cult of personality is integral to the power to keep everyone in line.

            Insufficiently deferential Republican congresscritters won’t be successfully primaried because of a mean tweet from Jericho Johnson, John Thune or the couch fucker.

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          Democrats for the past sixty years have fought tooth and nail to ban guns and succeeded in their own states to demonize ownership of them.

          Not only are they pathetically unable to leverage threats of violence against fascists using Second Amendment rights, they are also unwilling. So fuck them.

          Cops and fascists don’t respect unarmed protestors peacefully waggling their fingers at them, they will resume disrespectfully destroying the nation and laugh gleefully while they do this.

          To those who rebuke me saying they are a Democrat that owns a gun and doesn’t make it their identity, you are outnumbered by dipshit inbred armed MAGA Republicans 20:1, so no you are useless as fuck and continue to be useless as fuck unable to protect LGBTQ and vulnerable people from this Orange Shithead.

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            Yah, that’s your problem. He has declared war on canada, and we have guns. A large amount of them, and mostly undocumented. I’d say he better not step foot on our soil, but he’s a felon and can’t.

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            You’d really want it to be a series of smaller bangs on lower-level state figures. Less important, less protected, but still mission critical.

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      Canada has three of top 5 longest sniper kills. Ukraine has the top spot. We just need to export a small chunk of metal at high velocity into a golf course.

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          It’d definitely be a more worthy destination for my tax dollars than where they’re currently going. I support this initiative.

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          No, no, the importer pays the tax. You might want to send them a little extra if you want to help them out with that.

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            the importer pays the tax

            Officially, but in reality the extra cost gets passed down to the consumers in all countries involved, following the usual recipe of the rich getting all the gains and the poor getting all the expenses.

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    Amazing. It is like they want people to hate America as much as possible before America starts confronting China.

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        I know I’m supposed to understand that China is horrible, and the young US dick-tatorship is still nothing compared to Chinese high-tech totalitarian dystopia… but somehow, seeing USA, a supposed former friend and ally, turn into a ruthless, unprincipled traitor, aligning itself with Russia… With Russia, of all states! And spitting in the face of the hero of our times…

        We know Russians here in Poland. We know how their army works, we know their mentality. When Ukraine reported war crimes, we believed them. Seeing US backstab Ukraine like that… It’s just too much. I think the American brand is dead for us.

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          China has done about 1/100th the crap the us has. Even at its best, the us was overthrowing legitimate governments and destroying entire nations. China may not be perfect, but they are a whole hell of a lot better than the us.

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            China is a shit country. But like if you look at where they are coming from historically I think they are moving forwards. America is moving backwards. China has a ton of potential and I hope the chinese use it well. I am less hopeful for americans at this point.

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    Trump added that the result was very good for the US and ‘the person who did the best is a very good person as far as we’re concerned’

    Me too form together words too

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      Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?