It sort of looks to me like some of them are human-created (or at least human-curated), and some of the crappier or more nonsensical ones are created by generative AI.
I couldn’t find any ones that it would refuse to do – maybe it’s recently started using an AI image generator for those ones?
Edit: Okay, now I am sure that it’s using generative AI. I’m not trying to talk smack about the majority of them that are pretty reasonable and even sometimes creative, but also, sunset + butterfly yields:
It seems like you and maybe at least one other person are just not grasping what I am saying here.
A human did not make that decision. Sounds like it’s possible that maybe you are reading a lie that Google is telling you, and believing it is truth, I don’t really know, but yes they’re using generative AI for at least some of them.
A lot of the combinations with 🦋 + rare emoji end up looking like that, just putting the rare emoji as the head and tip of wand and coloring the “humanoid with wings” body in the rare emoji’s color.
I’m not saying it’s definitely not GenAI, but it’s also something that can easily be solved with an explicit algorithm.
Most emoji work that way, they have a few templates and then paste the other emoji into predetermined places.
Except, it is not a template. Even leaving aside that “put the sunset image in a square and make it a fairy’s head” would never be the template that any human decided to use to combine a butterfly with anything, look at this:
That’s moon + butterfly overlaid with 50% opacity over sunset + butterfly. It’s a different fairy image, not just a different scale, but a different shape with trivial differences. Which there would be no reason at all for other than the generator getting rerun with new parameters for the different input images. It’s gen AI.
yeah, but it’s really easy to justify anything being AI, since there’s always something slightly off or some mistake somewhere even with human art
For emoji kitchen specifically, I know Jennifer Daniel (formerly Google’s blobmoji, now more famous as Unicode’s emoji subcommittee chair) does a lot of them (if not all?), since she tweets about it a lot. (For what it’s worth, she also seems kinda anti-AI.)
Having gone in to modify some of the emoji kitchen combinations myself, you can tell that someone was editing the original files (SVGs/Illustrator/whatever vector graphics were originally used to make them), either with a template or just some kind of copy/paste job, and there are parts that were obviously just mirrored (something genAI is usually pretty bad at). I’m specifically thinking of all the little facets on the diamond + heart combos.
I’m like 95% sure you’ll be able to find tweets where she talks about actually drawing the emojis if you scroll back far enough, but Twitter is so completely unusable now I’m not going to be the one to look for them
None of what you said is really contradictory to anything I said. Everything you just said makes perfect sense. I said it looks like a human did a bunch of them, and did a pretty excellent / creative job, and then that gen AI did some of the vast selection of others.
I think I laid out pretty clearly why I think that. Jennifer Daniel didn’t make the fairy picture with a square sunset for a head and also a square sunset on the tip of its wand. For another thing, there are about 186,000 combinations of 2 of the 610 emojis on offer for this tool. It seems unlikely to me that any single human being would do every single one. It would start to multiply into years of full-time work time spent on them pretty quickly, even with some automation, and there are clearly AI tools that can fill in a bunch of the non-critical-to-get-perfect ones, so why not. Some seem clearly likely to be from a human, some sort of look like automated templates that aren’t gen AI (like the alternatives next to a “downward chart trend line”), and some are gen AI.
Anyway, I’m not trying to argue with you. I agree with most of what you said including that the human-generated ones are awesome, which is why I posted this.
It sort of looks to me like some of them are human-created (or at least human-curated), and some of the crappier or more nonsensical ones are created by generative AI.
I couldn’t find any ones that it would refuse to do – maybe it’s recently started using an AI image generator for those ones?
Edit: Okay, now I am sure that it’s using generative AI. I’m not trying to talk smack about the majority of them that are pretty reasonable and even sometimes creative, but also, sunset + butterfly yields:
No, it’s certainly not AI. Every image was made by an human.
It seems like you and maybe at least one other person are just not grasping what I am saying here.
A human did not make that decision. Sounds like it’s possible that maybe you are reading a lie that Google is telling you, and believing it is truth, I don’t really know, but yes they’re using generative AI for at least some of them.
A lot of the combinations with 🦋 + rare emoji end up looking like that, just putting the rare emoji as the head and tip of wand and coloring the “humanoid with wings” body in the rare emoji’s color.
I’m not saying it’s definitely not GenAI, but it’s also something that can easily be solved with an explicit algorithm.
Most emoji work that way, they have a few templates and then paste the other emoji into predetermined places.
Except, it is not a template. Even leaving aside that “put the sunset image in a square and make it a fairy’s head” would never be the template that any human decided to use to combine a butterfly with anything, look at this:
That’s moon + butterfly overlaid with 50% opacity over sunset + butterfly. It’s a different fairy image, not just a different scale, but a different shape with trivial differences. Which there would be no reason at all for other than the generator getting rerun with new parameters for the different input images. It’s gen AI.
yeah, but it’s really easy to justify anything being AI, since there’s always something slightly off or some mistake somewhere even with human art
For emoji kitchen specifically, I know Jennifer Daniel (formerly Google’s blobmoji, now more famous as Unicode’s emoji subcommittee chair) does a lot of them (if not all?), since she tweets about it a lot. (For what it’s worth, she also seems kinda anti-AI.)
Having gone in to modify some of the emoji kitchen combinations myself, you can tell that someone was editing the original files (SVGs/Illustrator/whatever vector graphics were originally used to make them), either with a template or just some kind of copy/paste job, and there are parts that were obviously just mirrored (something genAI is usually pretty bad at). I’m specifically thinking of all the little facets on the diamond + heart combos.
I’m like 95% sure you’ll be able to find tweets where she talks about actually drawing the emojis if you scroll back far enough, but Twitter is so completely unusable now I’m not going to be the one to look for them
None of what you said is really contradictory to anything I said. Everything you just said makes perfect sense. I said it looks like a human did a bunch of them, and did a pretty excellent / creative job, and then that gen AI did some of the vast selection of others.
I think I laid out pretty clearly why I think that. Jennifer Daniel didn’t make the fairy picture with a square sunset for a head and also a square sunset on the tip of its wand. For another thing, there are about 186,000 combinations of 2 of the 610 emojis on offer for this tool. It seems unlikely to me that any single human being would do every single one. It would start to multiply into years of full-time work time spent on them pretty quickly, even with some automation, and there are clearly AI tools that can fill in a bunch of the non-critical-to-get-perfect ones, so why not. Some seem clearly likely to be from a human, some sort of look like automated templates that aren’t gen AI (like the alternatives next to a “downward chart trend line”), and some are gen AI.
Anyway, I’m not trying to argue with you. I agree with most of what you said including that the human-generated ones are awesome, which is why I posted this.
That’s a fairy