I just know where the future is headed. Gotta be realistic about it.

They are making investments in green energy for their data center usage.

Our current economic model is insufficient to handle advancement in technology.

I have never had issues finding out information about file formats, or finding conversion tools for them.

The AI is not the problem in this case. The economic model is. It is not an economic model suitable for the advancement of technology.

I didn’t think you’ve thought it through to it’s logical conclusion, and your example shows a demeaning attitude towards what AI can currently be used for. When you reduce it to what you view as ridiculous uses, you become lacking in the facts.

For example, the US and China are international and ideological competitors.

To say you’ve never gotten a fully correct result on anything has to be hyperbole. These things are tested. We know their hallucination rate, and it’s not 100%.

I have used them in a large variety of ways, from general knowledge seeking to specific knowledge seeking, writing code, generating audio, images, and video. I use it most days, if not essentially every day. What examples would you like me to provide? Tell me and I will provide them.

Do you realize these companies are now making bigger investments into green energy?

This was always going to happen with the advancement of technology. It’s inevitable so long as humanity survives long enough.

Like what?

I think the exemption would be necessary to keep up with other nations who aren’t and will never be beholden to such laws.

I disagree with your take. I’ve found it extremely helpful in my life. I find using it and learning with it to be an enriching experience. I find following it’s development and seeing it grow to be exciting. I see the possibilities of all the positive things it could do for the future of humanity.

I don’t think a 10 year old could explain subatomic particles and the fundamental forces of the universe to me. I don’t think they could refresh my memory of how to do geometry to help my son with his homework. I don’t think a 10 year old could write a program for me to keep track of all the ebooks I have saved to my hard drive.

It’s fairly obvious what’s happening here. A bunch of people complaining about that newfangled thing they don’t understand or see the full potential of, just like for every new technology that has ever emerged. The automobile would never take off. Humans would never fly. TV was a fad. The Internet wouldn’t flourish. Rinse and repeat.

Why?

So these companies are against what you call draconian, but you also disagree with these companies? Everyone here is so fucking short sighted, it’s insane to me.

You sound like an old man yelling about the TV. LLMs are NOT unhelpful. You’d know this if you actually used them.

The billionaires are the ones with the resources to develop this tech. We could nationalize it, but then people would complain about that too for different reasons.

Well, then we should see their want to change copyright in this way as a good thing. People complain when YouTubers get copyright struck even if their content is fair use or transformative of something else, but then suddenly become all about copyright when AI is mentioned.

The toothpaste is out of the tube. We can either develop it here and outpace our international and ideological competitors, or we can stifle ourselves and fall behind.

The future comes whether you want it to or not.

I don’t think you’ve thought that out to its logical conclusion.

I understand your frustration, but it’s a necessary thing we must do. Because if it’s not us, well then it will be someone else and that could literally be devastating.

It will never be over. We will either be the ones dominant in this area, or it won’t be us. If it’s not us, well, the consequences could be dire.

They’re actually not making money. They’re losing money. Yes yes, I know they’re raising billions of dollars, but that goes into the training of the these models which requires manpower and a massive amount of compute and energy. Yeah, they tend to charge to use it (but also offer free tiers) but this is to put back into training.

Here’s the thing. The cat is out of the bag. It’s coming one way or another, and it will either be by us, or it will be by not us.

I’d rather it be us. Id rather us not be so selfish and rather us be willing to contribute to this ultimate tool for the betterment of all.

Depends on if you consider teaching “cheating.” Current AI is just learning material, similar to a human but at much faster rates and with a larger brain. Someone IS going to develop this tech. If you pay attention to the space at all, you’d know how rapidly it is developing and how much the competition in the space is heating up internationally. The East tends to have much more of a feeling of responsibility to the state, so if the state uses “their stuff” to train this extraordinarily powerful technology then they are going to be ok with that because it enhances their state in the world. The West seems to have more of an issue with this, and if you force the West to pay billions or trillions of dollars for everything to teach this system, then it simply either won’t get done or will get done at a pace that puts the West at a severe disadvantage.

In my view, knowledge belongs to everyone. But I also don’t want people more closely aligned with my ideals to be hobbled in the area of building these ultimate knowledge databases and tools. It could even be a major national security threat to not let these technologies develop in the way they need to.