• bampop@lemmy.world
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    Ironically, what Musk posted is perfectly acceptable ( in and of itself, ignoring the context of the person who is saying it ) since violence or the threat of violence is sometimes necessary to prevent things getting worse. For example, “Ukraine should be helped to defend itself” is a call for violence.

    Which is why it’s such a bullshit excuse to ban speech for that reason alone. I got banned for suggesting France might help out the USA by shipping over any surplus guillotines. I’m sure they would have no issue at all if I were enthusiastically advocating genocide. Never mind, I needed a push to make the move to Lemmy ; )

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      The line is state sponsored violence, generally. Likely with a little bias on what state is on the giving and receiving ends of said violence. Thats the rule at least so far as I can tell, at least.

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    Oh fucking hell he’s a megalomaniac he’s awful!!! Horrible man. How the fuck can reddit justify this shit? How has EVERYONE not left?

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    4 hours ago

    What do you mean by Elon Musk’s assets should be liquidated?

    Also, Reddit and X have very different moderating policies.

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      It’s good to be the king.

      He doesn’t have to be the one actually inflicting the violence on others, but with his power and influence he is capable of great violence by making others carry it out in his name.

      Fucking billionaires… :/

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    This feeds into the right-wing fantasy that they’re super tough warriors. You see a lot of literature and fictional TV aimed in this direction.

    It’s kind of like the white savior complex but instead of saving some victimized minority, they’re saving weaker and more helpless individuals in their own society. But all the military hero returns home and confronts nasty biker gang or evil drug dealers and kicks their ass without when trying. It all reinforced their world view.

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    Apart from all the other bullshit rightfully called out below, this makes an illogical implication. Being the smart autistic superbrain Melon claims to be, it’s surprising he doesn’t see that. Or maybe not, because in reality he’s just a sad ass who is too scared of just going to therapy.

    If: Not being capable of violence => Not being able to call yourself peaceful

    Then: Being able to call yourself peaceful => Being capable of violence

    But not: Being capable of violence => Being able to call yourself peaceful

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    Well they do have a point. Having strength isn’t the same thing as using it. Most have the ability to beat another human to a pulp but instead use their words and other forms of conflict resolution. So to extend that logic one isn’t peaceful if one doesn’t have the power not to be; that is one isn’t restraining themselves from being violent and exercising benevolence and patience but rather being forced to be tolerant of others bullshit because they can’t do anything about it. It’s like is your chastity being tested more in a monestary or a whorehouse?

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      That’s how they get you, with a nugget of truth that in your context is reasonable and in theirs is explicitly unreasonable. The idea that one can’t choose peace if they have no choice is an old one and philosophers have been thinking about it for ages. There’s nothing wrong with the idea. What’s wrong is that in the context of the alt right they imagine themselves as John Rambo and use nonsense like this as wank material when they’re advocating for (or doing) violence. It’s a story they tell to infantilize and invalidate the left. If we’re all babies who couldn’t even choose violence if we wanted then they should make decisions for us, right? Including the decision to kill us.

      Funny thing is that the left got most of the rights and protections that people of every stripe benefit from through outright violence. Strikes and protests and all that are the compromise, remember.