I’m looking across at the olympic peninsula right now from victoria right now and it really just settled in for me that losing that might actually be possible.

I would literally be willing to die trying to save the hoh rainforest.

Am I overreacting here?

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    You’ve been a shitty country in the past and you’re a shitty country now. What are you trying to achieve by saying other countries do bad things too?

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      Simple if you choose to cite rando shit from centuries ago you’re not actually engaging.

      It’s called low hanging fruit and apparently it’s the best you got. Take it up with the Dutch? I mean they raped the Congo… are you okay with rape? You never mentioned them in your recount of history.

      Fact is the US fucking sucks because of current shit aka republicans. Blanket statements and blandly waving hands towards the past few centuries doesn’t help at all.

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        I haven’t got a clue what you’re trying to achieve here…other countries did bad things, I know. But we aren’t talking about those countries, so I don’t understand why you’d bring them up.

        Nor have I mentioned “the past few centuries”…there’s no need.

        Can you enlighten me as to what your objective is?

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          I am talking about a single country, yet you can’t seem to focus on a single timeframe.

          You mention centuries old generalized stuff such that it could be applied to most any nation. Do you not remember this?

          You mean like genocide, slavery…

          Then you said…

          Other countries don’t count. We’re taking about this country…

          We’re taking about now. Not the 1800s. So one more time for the backseats…

          Saying the US had slavery to make a point is lazy and doesn’t help the here and now. Yea those things happened, they fucking sucked, and they should be condemned on their own merit alone. Using them to end a conversation on current issues is poor form and low hanging fruit. Especially when you generalize such that most every industrialized nation is just as guilty. The fact is that guilt isn’t the end of the story. Ask Germany

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            Genocide and slavery are happening now.

            We are specifically talking about USA. You keep mentioning other countries.

            Your comments have nothing to do with post title, nor do they help, as you can’t tell me what your point is…. Night.

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              Are atomic bombs being dropped now too?

              You mean like genocide, slavery, and being the only country in history to use atomic bombs against another country?

              That’s referring to current events?

              Point is you were writing off a lot of people with a flimsy blanket statement that would only Hold water if it was current and unique. It’s neither hence LOW hanging fruit and not worth it